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Commisio44354
Commisio44354
2/14/2019 11:26:09 PM
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Re: Net Neutrality
Such is not bizzare--it is frankly smart Lawyering--and it is unfortunate.   I continue to remain optimistic in spite of it all not withstanding the current chaos in Washington. 

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Duh!
Duh!
2/11/2019 1:53:09 PM
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Re: Mozilla
@Joe Stanganelli Did you listen to the oral arguments last week and/or read the briefs? What's your take?

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/10/2019 2:50:25 PM
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Re: Net Neutrality
I forget the exact details, but it seemed strange that Comcast was only required to adhere to net neutrality rules temporarily after its acquisition of NBC... that's a bizarre regulation to me.

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2019 12:57:59 PM
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Re: Net Neutrality
@mhhf1ve I also wonder how they get around the anti-trust laws. I'm old enough to remember the push to break apart Ma Bell after people realized, nope, there's not such thing as a "natural monopoly."

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/10/2019 12:15:23 PM
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Re: Net Neutrality
Also... The question of who gets to abuse consumers more: content owners vs network owners is nearly obsolete. As megacorps merge, the two entities are not distinct anymore -- and somehow the mergers have been allowed to happen despite regulations that should have prevented them....

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Ariella
Ariella
2/10/2019 10:20:16 AM
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Re: Net Neutrality
@mhhf1ve that's true. Even for smaller companies, just having enough resources to keep attorneys on retainer put them at an advantage.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
1/24/2019 1:26:13 PM
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Re: Net Neutrality
@joe - Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that when it comes to trials, that more lawyers means a court victory is assured. I misspoke a bit. By "most lawyers" -- I really meant "lawyer-lobbyists" because a large corp can essentially make the law, or at least shape policy in its favor. 

So incumbent telcos are buying politicians and sending them draft bills.. which will make it very difficult for any entities without the same resources to even have their day in court. 

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Commisio44354
Commisio44354
1/24/2019 11:36:31 AM
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Re: Mozilla
What is then the solution?   It seems as if whatever the majors want to do goes no matter what we little people say or think....

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/24/2019 1:41:53 AM
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Re: Mozilla
Net Neutrality is not about consumer choice; consumer rights is a red herring. It's about which megacorporations get the privilege of screwing consumers the most -- the network providers, or the content providers.

Trust me -- between costs, regulatory fees, and more, this ever-present "balance" will find its way whatever the results. :p

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/24/2019 1:38:09 AM
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Re: Net Neutrality
@mhh:

"And then the biggest companies with the most lawyers win.... "

This is a tired stereotype that just does not represent reality. And, speaking as a small-firm attorney with actual appellate experience, I am confident in saying that this is not the way the world always works.

I've been to court sessions where phalanxes of white-shoe law-firm lawyers were present to split their time arguing before the court. It's inevitably a cluster(very bad word), and -- even if they do wind up carrying the day based on the law -- it's in spite of, not because of, the idiotic way that work gets divided up in these situations.

And that's to say nothing of the butts I've kicked who had decades more experience and way better pedigrees than I did.

And other lawyers in firms of all sizes have similar stories to tell.

"The most lawyers" is helpful when it comes to research and discovery (because those are problems that require substantial human hours), but one driven and clever lawyer is better than 10 sleepy-eyed third-year associates burning the midnight oil.

In the high-stakes litigation context, Big Law doesn't exist to be the very very best. Big Law exists to provide credibility -- and, occasionally, scapegoating.

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