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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/7/2019 10:55:44 PM
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Better to have google fiber and lost than to never have had it at all?
Google pulled out of plans to deploy fiber in my city... so I guess it's a good thing that we never got "experimented" upon? I dunno.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/8/2019 2:27:59 PM
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Learning experiences...
> "Google Fiber got an education at Louisville's expense."

Was it really a total loss at Louisville's expense? Can the fiber that Google deployed be re-purposed..? I'm curious if the fiber that broke through its protective seal was ever repaired? Was it damaged by vandalism?  

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Duh!
Duh!
2/8/2019 3:02:06 PM
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"Fail fast" means that sometimes you actually fail. Who'd have thunk?

When you "move fast and break things", the breakage can sometimes be ugly. Who'd have thunk?

Give incumbents their rightful due. Outside plant is their heritage. When they bury cables, the cables stay buried. Who'd have thunk?

Building out telecom infrastructure demands different skill sets and culture than building data centers and search engines. Who'd have thunk.

Aside: Google Fiber (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) is still flogging their twist on SuperPON. Last time I talked with them, they insisted that they weren't giving up.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/8/2019 3:54:31 PM
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Re: Hubris
Google isn't the company that adopted "fail fast" as a motto. I understand what you're getting at, but there was some value in what Google Fiber did. There is value in what Google Loon does. Cheaper technology doesn't necessarily mean inferior technology. Sometimes it does, and people rightly point out that "you get what you pay for" -- but it's not always the case.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/8/2019 3:57:27 PM
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What caused micro tenching to fail?
Are there further details on what actually caused shallow trenches to fail? I presume there's a fix, but that it's just not economical for Google to redo what it tried with the fix given that it knows now what the market upside actually is.

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
2/9/2019 2:51:30 AM
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Re: Better to have google fiber and lost than to never have had it at all?
Google has always been mainly an experimenting company with its labs in the real world and with real people. 

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
2/9/2019 3:10:31 AM
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Re: Hubris
 <people rightly point out that "you get what you pay for" -- but it's not always the case.> That's true. And you can apply that to anything manufactured these days. A high tag price doesn't always guarantee superior quality anymore. 

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
2/9/2019 3:12:44 AM
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Re: What caused micro tenching to fail?
Google is not really known for fixing anything. When it breaks it brakes and Google abandons the project. When it fails it fails and Goggle abandons the project. It has always been like that.

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mhhf1ve
mhhf1ve
2/9/2019 4:08:10 AM
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Re: What caused micro tenching to fail?
That's true. Google isn't known to fix things, including offering good customer service. Sometimes it'll abandon projects if it's just not as profitable as it would like. Makes me think twice about trying any new google products nowadays. I used to be more willing to try new stuff from google.

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
2/10/2019 12:18:03 AM
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Re: What caused micro tenching to fail?
Google never fixes anything. It’s not in its plan as a business to invest time, money, or effort in fixing. It’s better business for Google to be an experimental company. That’s how its ROI works. If you think for a minute you come up with lots of Google products and services that you knew, didn’t work as expected, or failed for some reason and Google discarded. The latest one being Google+ So, I don’t see why it was going to be different with fiber. It was tested. Something happened. Kill it. Move on.

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